Saturday, December 1, 2007

Best Players of All Time

The hitters who produced the most during their careers should be measured by total bases (singles, doubles, triples and home runs) plus bases on balls. (You should argue that hit batsman should be included, but that would have taken too much work and I don't think it would have altered these figures.) The numbers after the 2007 season:

Player

TB

Walks

Total

Barry Bonds*

5976

2558

8534

Hank Aaron

6856

1402

8258

Babe Ruth

5793

2062

7855

Stan Musial

6134

1599

7733

Willie Mays

6066

1464

7530

Carl Yastrzemski

5539

1845

7384

Pete Rose

5752

1566

7318

Ty Cobb

5854

1249

7103

Ted Williams

4884

2021

6905

Ricky Henderson

4588

2190

6778

*Great player who likely cheated.

Williams and Henderson made it into top 10 cuz of walks, passing Eddy Murray and Rafael Palmeiro* who were in top 10 in total bases only.

Special Marlins Note: Andre Dawson didn't walk much, but he's No. 25 all time career in total bases, and the only persons above him who are not in the Hall of Fame are Barry Bonds*, Pete Rose (who did NOT cheat on the field), and Ken Griffey Jr., who's still playing. It's an outrage that Andre isn't in the Hall.


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1 comment:

rdfrench said...

Counting stats are dangerous things. You need look no further than Ted Williams to see the problem. You can certainly say that Williams is 10th on the list because of walks, but you can plausibly assert that the reason Williams is not first ls military service. Mays and Aaron might well have ended up in a dead heat had Mays not been drafted.
SB also need to be included--hundreds of Rickey's walks were turned into doubles or even triples by his speed.
No single stat captures everything you need to know to value a player. OPS+ captures more than TB plus walks, because it adjusts for the way baseball was played during the player's career. Hank Aaron's career OPS+ is 155; Ted Williams's is 191. They were both great great players.

Counting stats also tend to favor modern players, because they are paid such high salaries that they are motivated to player longer ...